More Old Timers Reminisce

Bobby
(on old photographs)

I'm pleased to say I recognize the picture from a long time ago - 1951/52 in fact. I took this pic with a school-made cardboard box 'pinhole camera' copied from a Lea Bank design.

 If you're not familiar with the procedure, it involved simply constructing a cardboard-box 21/2" x 2"(approx), and placing a piece of light-sensitive photo paper inside in a dark-room, putting a pin-hole opposite the paper, placing finger over until you had placed the 'camera' in position at your chosen scene (in this case the West side of Height's Farm approximately 15 yds off)..... lift finger off for 2 seconds... replace, and back to the dark-room..... in 'developer', then 'fixer' and 'hey-presto'... one piece of History.

(This picture is in the Nodial Gallery)

The picture you sent appears to be Auntie Alice as I recollect her to look like.... but I can't vouch for the dog's ID as she had so many over the years. You may have been told by Vera or your Dad that she used to take 'stray' dogs home on a regular basis. Her mother regularly used to give her an earful for doing this, but Alices' reply was unrepentant....

"I couldn’t leave the poor animal to starve could I Mother?"

....(no contest) seeing as Alice was providing the food, her Mother just had to contend with them round the house all day. Incidentally did you know that there was an ongoing arrangement with the local caretaker, whatever, at the church at the end of Wesley Grove where they lived, to provide burial space in the graveyard just over the wall by the houses. At a guess there could be anything up to a dozen dogs buried there. That's dedication isn’t it!.

 The last dog, (sorry.. 'stray') I heard of Alice taking into her care was a long-haired Great Dane style hound that she found 'abandoned' on the platform of Shrewsbury Railway Station, which accompanied her home much to It's delight and probably Its’ owner, who would immediately become so much richer in pocket.

 My memory recalls visits to Grandma Perkins abode in Wesley Grove, where one would be met by a crescendo of noise of awakened residential dogs that did not take kindly to us, and would take great delight in showing us the colour of their teeth and their deep bass growls when Alice and her Mother were out of sight.

 The recompense we visitors had was hearing said dogs reprimanded for 'bolting' their food in the kitchen, usually brought on by trying to swallow all the bones left in the fish-heads and 'lights' that Alice used to boil for them.

  Auntie Alice herself was a placid person who would help in any way she could, jovial in her position (spinster), and maintained a subtle status with her Mother who could be 'trying' at times. Pacification was achieved most times by the production of a bottle of 'Stout' each on a regular basis after tea to sooth the atmosphere.

(There are 2 pictures of Auntie Alice in the Nodial Gallery)

 

Linda Ann
Married to George.
(on the McLoughlins and the Truckles - mainly)

Catherine McLoughlin was George's Grandmother. George does not remember too much. He knew the Nolans had Taxis and my sister in law Sheila used to go dancing with Dolly. Sheila by the way is married to my elder brother Walter.

I am sure John and Martha lived in Longmoor Lane Aintree at one time. Not sure if one of the boys was named Jeffrey.

All the information about Eliza Truckle born to Mary Ann is true. I have her birth certificate and have the family on the census records. The line goes back to Robert in 1700's. Sorry I can not help with William's army records. I have not actually searched for them but another member of the McLeod family has and she just can not find his discharge papers, although Joan has found various other army documents which give a good idea of where he was stationed etc.

As for the marriage lines they do not indicate William needed permission. I do not think they did in that early period. His father was William and deceased at the time. Eliza states father Thomas a working gardener. But Thomas Who is not known as she was illegitimate. Mary did not marry a Thomas but she may have married another person the same time as her daughter got married.

Judging by what you have told me I think you must be the daughter of the Tommy Nolan who had a farm near Bacup or was that your brother. I know my father in law George went up with a few of the family one time and the story he told us when he came back was hilarious.

I am also connected with the Truckles from my side of the family. My mothers parents were from the Isle of Man and one of her great grandfathers brothers went to Australia. His wife died after her third child and He went to an orphanage and took out a sixteen year old named Eliza Truckle who he married. They went on to have several more children.

Eliza was born about 1851 and her parents went to Australia shortly after. Sadly her mother died and she was placed in the home. Her father seemed to have disappeared but his death followed a few years later. Her father James was from Stratford Subcastle in Wiltshire and descended from a Thomas Truckle who was the grandson of the Robert I mentioned from Amesbury who is also our Elizabeth's ancestor.